I would say that, if your inner game is at least mediocre, these guys do nothing more than boost your self-esteem (you get the "At least I'm not like this guy" feeling).
I liked this program, but the first 6 cds is like all science and super super boring...between cds 7-11 he starts to talk about more dating.
It's, as someone else said, mostly theory and light on techniques, but I personally find it more enjoyable that way.
David D's guest speakers this time are great, too (except for Chris Carter, whose section seems like contrived filler); Style, Zan, Lance, Doc, and Geoffrey Miller give some amazing insights into gaming and techniques.
My main complaint is that he decided to include testimonials and stuff right in his program, with attendees asking dumb questions and generally wasting your time.
Bonus CD: Interviews With Dating Gurus - Creating powerful sexual tension that turns a woman on and makes her think about you - Becoming mentally prepared to interact with a woman - How to overcome fears and frustrations holding you back from success with women - The biological process that makes a woman to choose one man over another - Flipping a woman’s subconscious “attraction switches” to create irresistible attraction from her - Developing a strong masculine presence that makes women notice you - How to naturally cheat the system to get a quality woman - How to get women to compete over you like that alpha males do - Why most men will never become successful with women - Eliminating dangerous mental obstacles - Developing powerful confidence that women will notice - How to keep the power in a relationship with a woman - How to attract women faster with 20 traits that guys who are “naturals” with women possess - Getting real “masters” with women to share their techniques with you - A technique to eliminate nervousness around women - A method for “turning the tables” on a woman when on a date to make her impress you - Using “sexual” body language instead of words to turn a woman on - Why women love “bad boys” - Using “bad boy” methods to trigger her “sexual selection mechanism” to make her crazy for you - Why a woman will sleep with one man on the first night, but keep another man waiting - How to improve your physical appearance to create irresistible masculine sexiness - How to pass the tests women use to disqualify men - An eye contact technique to capture a woman - 19 qualities of a sexually attractive man - A method for avoiding the “cold shoulder” from a woman you want to approach - Exercises to develop your conversation skills and learn how to talk to women - An in-field exercise to eliminate nervousness and anxiety - Techniques specifically addressing the dating process and taking things to the physical level - Locations where single women hang out - Things to avoid doing when approaching a woman - How to get an attractive woman to approach you - Additional techniques - 18 Audio CDs or 9 DVDs - Workbook of teaching slides and aides - Detailed track listing for quick access - 3-ring binder to hold all of your CDs/DVDs and other material - One-month subscription to "Interviews With Dating Gurus" interview series This seemed like SO many very SLOW talks by Dave D standing there in the blue dress shirt, first time through.
The dragging pace, visual monotony and cheap production values make a good part of this seem like inexpensive filler for too many discs - at least at first. On first viewing the talks and interviews with guests are FAR more engaging, with most of them offering some lightning-bolt transformational insights, each in their own style.